In a candid discussion on the podcast *Friends Who Keep Secrets*, musician Ed Sheeran and producer Benny Blanco reflected on their unexpected journeys to fame, highlighting their shared experiences as “normal dudes” in an industry often dominated by traditionally charismatic figures. The episode aired on March 10, showcasing a conversation that served as both a celebration of their accomplishments and an affirmation of their humble backgrounds.
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During the podcast, Sheeran and Blanco delved into their experiences, expressing that they do not fit the archetype of the “popular kid in school.” Accentuating their relatability, Blanco pointed out how they are not the types to initially inspire envy or admiration in the social hierarchies of their formative years. This revelation struck a chord with co-host Lil Dicky, who remarked on Sheeran’s grounded character when he was in his early twenties.
Blanco, who is 38, articulated a shared sentiment with Sheeran, stating that their presence as successful musicians provides hope for many who consider themselves ordinary. He remarked, “I feel like both, especially me… you give the normal guy hope.” This notion of being relatable resonates with many fans who appreciate their modest personas amidst the glitz and glamour of the music industry.
Throughout their conversation, the trio, which also includes co-host Kristin Batalucco, embraced their self-identified normality. The podcast’s hosts openly discussed the pressures associated with societal beauty standards, noting the existence of “so many guys” who fit the traditional mould of attractiveness and talent. At one point, Sheeran quipped about the “popular kid in school” stereotype, implying that it does not represent the essence of their identities.
The comparisons to other stars were not lost on the group. Blanco pointed to figures like Jacob Elordi and Chris Brown, who fit the bill of the quintessential “hot guy” capable of performing extraordinary feats. Yet, both he and Lil Dicky recognised that while some men may possess conventional charm and physical appeal, it is perhaps the blend of humour and humility that truly defines their charm.
Further exploring the concept of relatable artistry, Batalucco introduced the conversation about Benson Boone, a young artist who is considered to embody an appealing combination of attractiveness and endearing qualities. The playful banter highlighted how much emphasis they placed on the crossover between being attractive and having the distinctiveness that makes one relatable to the average listener.
Their deep camaraderie and mutual admiration extend beyond casual conversation. Blanco previously expressed similar sentiments in a *TIME100* cover story, where he discussed Sheeran’s impact on listeners through relatable lyrics. He noted, “He sings sentences that we say all the time, but nobody ever puts them together like that in a song.” This emphasis on authenticity is a recurring theme in her music, making Sheeran a figure of inspiration for many.
The two artists have collaborated since 2017, with Blanco contributing to Sheeran’s acclaimed album *÷ (Divide)*. Their relationship is emblematic of a genuine partnership in the industry, built on a foundation of shared experiences rather than superficial competition. Their work together culminated in various hit songs, illustrating their harmonious synergy as creators.
Their past collaboration with Lil Dicky in 2018 on the track “Freaky Friday” further solidifies their connection, showcasing their ability to blend unique talents into a cohesive sound. The music video for the song featured Sheeran in a light-hearted manner, reinforcing the notion that success in the music industry does not require one to surrender their genuine self.
This episode serves as a reminder that in an era enamoured with fame, there is still room for artists like Sheeran and Blanco who cherish authenticity. As their conversation unfolded, it was clear that rather than being just celebrities, they choose to embrace their roles as role models for those who might feel overlooked or inconspicuous. By sharing their experiences, they inspire a sense of belonging and encourage others to embrace their own authenticity on whatever stage they find themselves.